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The progression through the family tree project has left a
few unanswered questions or identified issues that still need to be resolved.
Rather that deal with these in e-mails and piles of paper, I have opted to place
them here on the web site so that all members of the Laughton Clan can
check them out and provide input. As they are resolved, I will move them to the
"resolved table" (see below) so that others are not sent off on
the hunt. A few of those have been placed there now, as others may not know of
the question and answer.
The issues are presented in the genealogical order from
the youngest person to the oldest person. If you have other questions, please
send them in and if I can not answer them for you I will post them here. If the
list grows extensively I can always split it up into major generations.
Some of these questions or issues may be
able to be addressed by Paul Laughton in Ottawa, so if anyone has that opportunity
please let me know of any comments.
There are questions now also for
the Scotland based clan - any assistance would be appreciated. We also
want to add the burial information for our ancestors in Orkney, if
anyone has that information (to be added to Cemeteries).
Questions Outstanding:
| Year |
Person |
The
question or issue |
Finding
a solution |
| Photos |
Laughton |
There
were a number of photographs in the John Ivan Laughton Collection that
arrived in March-April 2009 and that were not identified.
Some were clearly identifiable when
compared to other photographs and others remained as "unknown
photographs". Where possible I have entered some information but
this is really a case of needing someone who recognizes the people (or
place) so we can name that picture.
All of these photographs are in a
separate directory on the web site and are listed as a branch to this
"Questions Page" (see index in left column).
Unknown
Photographs
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Please
let me know if you can identify any person or any place in these
photographs.
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| 1916 |
Malcolm
Campbell Laughton |
This
is a new member of the family, unknown even on the Paul Laughton charts.
Malcolm died at 1 day old in June 29, 1916 in London, Ontario Canada. He
was the son of Kate Campbell and John Hugh Laughton and thus a
step-brother to the rest of the sons of John
Hugh Laughton 1859.
The only recorded child of Kate and John
Hugh Laughton that I had heard of was John "Jack"
Campbell Laughton 1918, for whom we have limited information. It is
reported in letters that Jack never married and that he was closest to
his Uncle Edward Laughton 1876.
We have located the grave of Katie May
Campbell in the London Mount Pleasant Cemetery, Ontario. The photo does
not show the name of Malcolm or the other son John. Where are they
buried?
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Can
we find the burial location for:
Malcolm
John
I will go to the London
Mount Pleasant Cemetery in the Spring of 2009 and check to see what is
written on Katie's stone, perhaps something on the reverse or a ground
level marker (as in Niagara Falls).
May also need to check
the St. Mary's cemetery. I will check the on-line records or contact
them to see if they have a listing.
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1881-1881
and/or
1896-1898 |
John
Van Wyck
Laughton |
Paul
Laughton raised this issue a number of times in his documents and so I
pursued the matter.
The Parkhill
Gravestone indicates that young John Van Wyck Laughton (JVWL)
lived from 1896 to 1898, a mere two years. The original chart of Paul
Laughton, which we have confirmed from the available records, shows that
JVWL was forn on August 17, 1881 and died on October 2, 1881 - a period
of 1 month and 15 days.
The Ontario Death Registry 1869-1947 (LDS
Pilot Site) lists John as passing on October 2, 1881 at the age of 1
month 15 days. It lists his birth place as St. Marys Ontario but his
place of death as South Marysburgh, Prince Edward County, Ontario.
History may have confused the St. Marys and the Marysburgh.
I have not found a record of a John
Laughton who was born in 1896 or died in 1898.
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Were
there really two John Van Wyck Laughton boys, with one buried in
St. Marys and the other in Parkhill? In the alternative, was there
only one son and the gravestone in Parkhill is incorrect? |
| 1864 |
David
Laughton & Mary Eleanor "Minnie" McAlmon |
In
the package of information that came from John Ivan Laughton in March
2009 there was a "Stitched Christmas Card" from
"Uncle Dave" (McAlmon) to Grace Laughton. The card was
sent from Belgium on December 7, 1915 so logic would say that Dave
McAlmon was in the Great War (First World War 1914-1919) and serving in
France & Flanders.
I was able to find David Laughton's
family in the 1901 and 1911 Canadian Census, where we also found out
that David was born in 1864 (we previously had
1861). His wife is listed as "Minnie" who he
married in Brandon, Manitoba. Minnie was originally from New
Brunswick. The parents David and Mary are shown in the 1901 Census as
living alone and in the 1891 Census with their children, including 16
year old Mary (Minnie) and 5 year old David (presume that is
"Uncle Dave").
I could not find any reference to Uncle
Dave after 1891 until he showed up on the Christmas Card from Belgium in
1915. There is no record of a Canadian Soldier in the war by that last
name. There is no record of a McAlmon on the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission registry, nor in the United Kingdom National
Archives. The LDS Family Search projects are also negative on
Uncle Dave, although positive on his father David McAlmon 1841.
The documents from my search related to
that question are located here:
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Where did Uncle Dave
go after 1891 and is he the same Dave that showed up in France in 1915
and sent the postcard to his niece Grace Laughton?
We should also look for independent
confirmation that David Laughton was in fact born in 1864 as shown on
1901 and 1911 Census documents and not 1861 as noted by his grandson
John Ivan Laughton. |
| 1860-1912 |
Louise
Estelle Laughton (Van Wyck) |
The
family stone in the Parkhill
Cemetery lists Louise "Mother" clearly on the
reverse. The Ontario Death Registry also notes that she died in Parkhill
on October 25, 1912. As such, I had always assumed that Louise "Louella"
was buried in the family plot in Parkhill.
In the process of going through the
family records from Paul Laughton in February 2009 I found a number of
references to Louise being buried in Walkerton and Paul's statements
that Louise was buried near Jerome.
In Paul's letter of January 1999 to
John Ivan Laughton he specifically states that his grandmother
"Louise Estelle" is buried nearby (to Jerome and Jean's grave
in Walkerton).
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A
trip to the Walkerton Cemetery will be planned for the Spring of 2009 to
find out what Laughton stones can be found and what inscribed. |
| 1841 |
David
Laughton |
There
are questions concerning the family of David
Laughton 1841 that arise as a result of the 1960 letter from Archie
Laughton which refers to Jessie and William
Sinclair Laughton 1888 ("Willie O' The Park").
The chart from Paul Laughton 1923 shows
that Archie was the son of John Laughton
1874 (as per Sue's dates). However Archie's 1960 letter says his
father is 91 which would suggest his father was David Laughton 1869
(1960-91=1869).
In his 1960 letter Archie also refers to
Willie being the cousin of his father, yet on the chart from Paul
et al we have Willie as the brother of David, John and Jessie. Archie
does say that Jessie is his Aunt. There is also an additional, yet
incomplete line on the Paul chart suggesting there was another child of
David 1841 - any ideas?
Lastly, we have information from my
cousin Mary Frances Laughton (daughter of Paul Laughton 1923) that she
knew John Laughton (son of Archie). It would appear he was still alive
in 1999 and so our assumption that Paul's note (1 Mar. 74) as being the
death of John is probably incorrect.
Is it possible that William 1888 was the
son of John Laughton 1874 and Archie was the son of David 1869? That
would make them cousins?
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Sue
may be able to resolve this matter as this is her family line. |
| 1800s |
Van Wyck Family
Name |
There is a
separate page on this web site that deals with the origin of the Van
Wyck name in the Laughton family. At present, I am the last
surviving male that carries Van Wyck as the middle name, a
process that started when John Hugh
Laughton 1859 gave that middle name to all his sons and daughters,
as his wife's last name was Van Wyck.
The lineage of the Van Wyck name at first
seemed all very clear, looking at the charts from Uncle Paul and the
details in the history reports. What is missing is the part that shows
where John Van Wyck fits into the picture, as he appears to have been
added to the chart by Paul without any supporting documentation.
Details of the issue are presented on the
Van Wyck page on this web site.
Apparently there is a Van Wyck Cemetery
in Walkerton (and some indication of Owen Sound) that may have some
details.
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| 1771 |
Gilbert
Laughton |
The
most significant question that Uncle Paul (Paul Laughton 1923) was not
able to answer in his quest was "Which Gilbert Laughton is our
Founder?
Apparently there were four options that
are detailed on Gilbert's Page but
it was impossible to tell which Gilbert was our relative, as the parish
records had been destroyed. One of our family members may just have the missing
link, that tiny bit of information that someone in the past has
mentioned about the family heritage. Are you that person?
It may be that some form of deductive
reasoning, coupled with the modern day access to ancestry records, will
give us the answer that Paul could not find in 1981 or even in 1991.
Until we find out which Gilbert, we can
not go back in history past John 1801.
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Issues Resolved:
| Year |
Person |
The
question or issue |
Finding
a solution |
| 1901 |
Bruce
Laughton |
The
grave marker of Bruce Laughton was identified during the July 2008 visit
to the Niagara Falls
Cemetery (Canada). The marker was at the site of John Laughton 1829
but there was no known sibling known as "Bruce".
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Bruce
was identified as the son of Edward
Laughton 1876. Edward's grave is in the same Niagara Falls cemetery
but in a different location. Logic then tells us that the grave marker of
John Laughton was already in place when Bruce was tragically killed by a
train in 1904. Edward and his wife Bertha "Bert" lived for many
more years and so they had no family plot. The logical solution was to
bury Bruce with his grandfather.
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| 1886 |
St.
Clair Van Wyck Laughton |
The
records tell us that Clair and his wife Eva are buried in the Parkhill
Union Cemetery, but it appears that they are not buried in the John
Hugh Laughton plot with the rest of the family. Clair was somewhat of an
outcast of the family and had moved to Detroit.
There is a Clare (Clair) and Eva Laughton
listed in the 1920
Census of the United States living in Los Angeles County, California
(use LDS
Pilot Project). They are both listed as Canadians but Clare lists
his father as being born in New York? That could be Niagara Falls, New
York? Coincidence or not?
The age matches for Clair as 34 in 1920
is the correct birth year of 1886. It says he emigrated to the USA in
1916 which is when he deserted from the Canadian Expeditionary Force
during the Great War (January 1916).
The
Ontario Death Registry says they are buried in Parkhill. Were they put
in the family plot and just not entered on the stone, or were they kept
separate when Clair died (Eva died many years later)?
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We
received our first part of the answer to this question in March 2009
from the Box Funeral Home in Parkhill. Chuck Box responded that he will
provide a map and photographs of the Laughton members in the Parkhill
Union Cemetery.
A few days later after I asked if he
could send the map so I could plan a trip (check the sites on GPS
first), Chuck sent some photographs that clearly show the grave site
of Clair and Eva Laughton. There were others, perhaps Wickert's
which I will need to check when I go to Parkhill.
I will add this to the Parkhill Cemetery
page, but here it is for now:
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Grave of Clair & Eva Laughton
Parkhill Union Cemetery
We now also have a map of
the Parkhill Union Cemetery from Chuck Box that marks where each of the
grave sites are located (Laughton & Wickert). We will check these
out in the Spring of 2009.
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| 1831 |
Thomas
Laughton
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The
original family tree charts of Paul Laughton indicate that Thomas Laughton
(see John Laughton 1801) died in
Canada, apparently in Walkerton. I had always assumed that he must have
been visiting his brothers John or Jerome. From the photograph of the
homestead in the Orkney Islands (Vigga) we have evidence of Thomas
sitting with his nephews John and David, sons of David
Laughton 1841. Sue Yannaghas (nee Petrie - Thomas's Great Great
Granddaughter) raised this question again in her e-mails in February 2009.
In searching the death registers for
Ontario I can find no evidence of this Thomas Laughton having died in the
area, at least not one married to a Margaret or Maggie. What we did
find from the LDS
Registers was that there were two (2) Thomas Laughton boys born in
1831 in Orkney, Scotland. One of these two Thomas lads born 1831 in
Scotland is listed in the 1881
Canadian Census as living in Egremont Township in Grey County (the
Walkerton area). A farm owned by Thomas Laughton was found on the Township
Maps of that period. That Thomas Laughton is listed on the Ontario
Death Registry as having a recorded death of July 9, 1881 at the age
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Our
Thomas Laughton 1831 appears in the Vigga photograph in 1905-1910 and
certainly appears to be older than 53, suggesting the picture date is
correct (in which case the man is 75+ years old). The question then is,
did Paul Laughton assume that the Thomas Laughton 1831 from the Orkney
Islands that was in the Walkerton area was our Thomas Laughton? Is that
then why he noted "died in Canada" on his chart?
The problem was resolved when Sue located a
number of critical documents:
 | death
certificate of Thomas Laughton showing that he was born in Holm on
April 7, 1831 and died at Vigga on November 10, 1921 |
 | marriage
of Thomas Laughton to Ann Petrie on January 20, 1881 in Holm |
 | birth of Margaret Jane Laughton on
December 6, 1885, daughter of Thomas and Ann |
 | marriage of Margaret to William Berston
on March 30, 1922 |
 | death of Margaret at Vigga on June 17,
1940 |
The charts have been corrected to show this
information and all of the details have been posted to a new page for
Thomas Laughton 1831.
This was confirmed in March 2009 with
receipt of the "Letters Package" from John Ivan Laughton. In
there was a 1960 letter from Ralph Bews (Orkney) who stated Tom died in
Canada. He was talking about the family of Sarah Laughton 1833 so he
was referring to Tom Wooldrage, Sarah's son with David Wooldrage (see Sarah
1833 for details).
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